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a gun can be attached to a sword or a foil and have a practical mechanism?

No. You end up with a gun that’s difficult to aim and a sword that’s awkward to use.

There were real combination gun/blade weapons made in the seventeenth and eighteenth century, but they’re mostly a historical footnote. Also, we’re talking about a situation where you’d use a sword like a machete, and where accuracy was something that might accidentally happen with a pistol.

You can attach a bayonet to the end of a rifle, but that, or a blade in one hand, a pistol in the other is about as close as you’re going to get.

Gun blades like in Final Fantasy? No. You have a pistol you can’t aim and a sword you can’t fight with.

-Starke

thatjustenwriter said: Most sword/axe guns were very very expensive, and were generally used as show pieces.

There were some efforts to make some as boarding weapons, but as far as I know the complexity, and price, kept them from serious use. Gunaxes are a new one on me, but that only illustrates how little they caught on.

-Starke

I believe the reason top-break revolvers fell out of fashion is because the latch is in line with the barrel, it has to hold the full force of the gun firing, whereas a side break revolver, because the cylinder latch is out of line with the firing force, is a good enough comprimise of strength and loading speed (the strongest design is a fixed cylinder, like the peacemaker, but obviously that is much slower to load)

My understanding was that the latches tended to fail after a couple years of regular use, but I’ve never gone looking for credible information to back that perception up.

With a little practice, the Peacemaker loads pretty quickly, but it is a cumbersome system.

For those who don’t know, the Peacemaker’s cylinder is accessed by a small port on the back of the revolver. You knock spent shells out one at a time by rotating the cylinder, then load fresh rounds in their place.

You can speed reloading, by directing the barrel up and rotating the cylinder with the port open, to drop all the spent shells at once. Then you direct the barrel down, and with your left hand you manipulate the cylinder while you use your right hand to feed the rounds in. (This might be one of the rare moments when shooting left handed is actually an advantage, as the port is to the left of the hammer.)

You’re not going to beat reload times for a semi-automatic, or even a revolver with a speed-loader (assuming you can get the speedloader to actually release the rounds).

-Starke

I just watched the first episode of Sleepy Hollow, and it showed Revolutionary War soldiers firing flintlock pistols and balancing the barrels on the wrist of the other hand to help with aim. (At least, I think so–it was a quick shot, but they looked too short to be rifles.) Is this historically accurate technique? Either way, do you have any tips for (fictional, of course) use of flintlock pistols?

Well, they were inaccurate as hell, for one thing. Rifled barrels existed in the sixteenth century, but most flintlocks were smoothbore, meaning the weapon was exceedingly inaccurate outside of very close combat. This is why you could line infantry up in melee formations, tell them to shoot at a similar formation, and they wouldn’t all die after the first volley.

Balancing on the wrist? Search me. There’s a rifle stance where you balance across your elbow, and there are some handgun stances where you use the back of your wrist to stabilize your shooting hand, while gripping a flashlight or knife. But balancing the gun on the wrist sounds really odd to me.

EDIT: It hit me as I was editing in the tags. Balancing across the wrist is a coach gun stance. It lets you keep a couple shells for the shotgun in your hand while firing. It’s a really oddball grip, though, no idea if predates breach loading shotguns. But, if that’s the case, then you’re probably looking at either a blunderbuss, (think of them as the ancestors to the modern shotgun) or a gun that really shouldn’t be there.

With smoothbore firearms, longer barrels equal more accuracy, up to a point. Flintlocks came in a lot of different sizes and shapes, so without having seen it, it could be any number of firearms. On a hunch, I’d recommend checking the blunderbuss as a possible suspect. I don’t think Carbines date back to the Revolutionary War, but it’s possible that their arms master flunked history.

Now, advice on writing in that time? First, don’t call it a rifle. It’s actually pretty easy to mess this one up. Rifles have been around since sometime in the early sixteenth century, but they didn’t become the standardized infantry weapons until the Napoleonic Wars. The practice of calling every longarm a rifle is actually very modern. US forces were still transitioning to rifled muskets during the Civil War, so while I know they had some rifles during the revolutionary war, what you’re actually talking about are muskets.

It’s worth pointing out, at least with flintlock pistols, the reloading procedure was to pour the powder, then the ball, finally drop the cartridge paper in, and tap it all down with the ramrod. This was to keep the bullet in place as the weapon was carried. As I recall, reloading took something like ten to twenty seconds, and was impossible in melee.

Paper cartridges did exist. These were premeasured tubes of paper that would contain enough powder for a single shot, and sometimes a bullet. Most of these were not intended to be simply shoved into the gun, though. They’d be torn open (usually, with the shooter’s teeth) and poured in after the bullet.

Though, there were exceptions, where the entire cartridge would be loaded into the weapon in a single piece. That usually involved paper treated with potassium nitrate. Nitrated paper would burn almost completely. As far as I know, the nitrated paper cartridge came into use with percussion cap firearms, so the 1820s at the earliest.

Anyway, I’m still working through our backlog. Sorry about the wait.

-Starke