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I know nothing on firearms I was originally not going to have my character use guns at all but I thought him having two pistols for emergencies/last resort would be a good idea, I remember from the movie John Wick that he used something called central axis relock what can you tell me about that and just firearms in general

Central axis relock is just a CQB pistol stance. It’s relatively recent, though it’s already jumped from law enforcement and military only to civilian accessible. Basically, CAR holds the gun much closer to the face and body than a Weaver stance, which plays havoc with traditional pistol disarms, and has a tendency to convince people who’ve been trained in the Weaver stance that you don’t know what you’re doing.

It’s probably worth stressing, CAR is only the pistol stance where Keanu has the weapon gripped with both hands close to the face and the flick reload. Most of the time he’s in a Weaver stance. Firing arm fully outstretched and locked, body at 45 degrees, off hand bent to stabilize the pistol? That’s Weaver. Anytime he’s firing the gun with one hand, that’s just sloppy firearms handling. Given what’s going on, it’s not unforgivable, but you never operate a modern pistol one handed.

With the quick caveat that I haven’t watched the film in it’s entirety, and still need to get to that. Wick is a pretty good example of something we describe. Professional combatants who have acquired multiple different combat styles switching between them as the situation changes. It threads it together with some things that are just choreography, and would be a horrible idea to use in actual combat. Now, I can’t tell you if this was done because it was realistic, or simply because it made the scenes more visually interesting.

I’m told, by people who’ve actually had experience with CAR, that, like all stances, it has its own strengths and weaknesses. I haven’t seen anyone say, specifically, what its weaknesses are, and without first hand experience with it, I couldn’t offer any intelligent speculation on the subject. Though one thing I have seen is that (unless I’m missing something) magazine retention is basically impossible during reloads, so, depending on your handgun, that’s at least $15 gone every time you change magazines, not counting ammo fired. (Figure that, for most semi-automatic pistols, each magazine will cost you between $30 and $40 dollars. And, in some cases can run upwards of $70. If you don’t retain (keep and pocket) your magazines, you’ll have to pay to replace them, or try to find them after the fact, which may not be an option.)

CAR is not a firearm augmented hand to hand style. So far as I know, no such discipline exists. CQB/CQC (Close Quarters Battle/Combat) techniques, particularly gun disarms, are about as close as you’ll get. What Wick is trying to show are CQB techniques. But, CQB is not a specific combat system, it’s a description of a combat situation with it’s own considerations. CQB simply culls techniques from someone’s prior training and says, “if you’re in this kind of a situation, then these techniques will be better options than those ones.”

It’s probably worth pointing out, again, that dual wielding handguns is not, really, a thing. It’s not unheard of for someone to carry a backup handgun, if they’re concerned about their primary suffering a mechanical failure, but they’re not going to be using both. They’ll use a primary; if it jams (and can’t be cleared quickly), is damaged, destroyed, or lost, then they’ll switch to a backup.

-Starke

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